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07-04-2024 12:01 PM #121Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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07-04-2024 12:03 PM #122This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteFollow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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And maybe then it’s a matter of how the money is spent as it’s not worked, and that’s a lot of money to spend for continuing poor football.
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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07-04-2024 12:06 PM #125This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-04-2024 12:07 PM #126
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What a constructive post.
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07-04-2024 12:13 PM #127
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07-04-2024 12:13 PM #128
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Jack Ross being the example I’d use.Last edited by Greensunshine; 07-04-2024 at 12:16 PM.
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07-04-2024 12:14 PM #129This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-04-2024 02:11 PM #130
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The senior leadership within our club is also *****, no really sure how anyone can still be arguing against that?!
We signed Bushiri by mistake.
We played an illegible player leading to us forfeiting a competitive fixture.
Just 2 mistakes that would be laughed at in the EoS league for **** sake.
Tone at the top counts for a lot, and ours stinks - and has done for years.
We’ll achieve nothing with this snide salesman running our club unfortunately
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07-04-2024 02:13 PM #131
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A calamity and it shows no signs of improving, as we edge closer to sacking the latest manager.
Remarkable that this guys no being chased out of town IMO.
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07-04-2024 02:27 PM #132
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07-04-2024 03:03 PM #133
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07-04-2024 03:14 PM #134This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-04-2024 03:57 PM #136
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I think we can say that under the Gordon’s, commercial income has significantly improved over the previous regime, but given how poor things had become on that front (how many years did we go without a proper shirt sponsor?), improving it doesn’t have to mean it was some unique set of skills only Ron and Ben could provide, indeed, they’ve taken us up towards what Hearts and Aberdeen were already doing.
We have also consistently had much smaller budgets than our direct rivals, while more money doesn’t guarantee success, as Aberdeen have shown and, I would say, Hearts probably haven’t delivered value for money on what their fans and benefactor has injected, trying to achieve success with less is a lot harder. We hear that Ben was important in landing the BK millions, but even if that turns out to be an annual payment (don’t think they’ve said it is?), it’s only closing the gap on what Hearts have been spending, and is the sort of budget uplift Ron himself promised on arrival.
So I think we can say Ben has done alright off the park, but potentially that was some fairly low hanging fruit, going from no sponsors to having some doesn’t sound like a difficult task, does it. On the park, under him and the Gordon’s, we’ve drifted, with no clear plan, going from experienced Scottish manager, to promising rookie, to experienced journeyman failure, to successful winner on the rise, suggests not only do they pick the wrong man, they chuck out their entire rationale next time round.
In the post BK world, how does the club work? Is Ben needed? Certainly not in football matters. Same with Ian Gordon and our DoF, if transfer policy will heavily revolve around the BK group, what are they doing? Speaking of our supposed DoF, what signings have been his? January looked like Foley picks alongside Monty’s man Triantis. What value has he brought, what value will he bring in future?
Personally I’d be happy with shipping out pretty much everyone involved in first team football at the club. Look to the knowledge in Foley’s group to identify a skilled administrator, Director of Football, coaches, scouts etc. Tear it all up and start again.
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07-04-2024 04:15 PM #137This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think there definitely needs to be a proper review of the football operation at the club. When you're repeatedly sacking managers then you have a wider issue that needs addressed and everyone in every department should be critically reviewed.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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07-04-2024 04:21 PM #138
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I think the lack of a plan is what worries me most, in that, at our level, every player we sign or manager we appoint isn’t going to be a success, but we’ve previously been told we want to have an identity or a consistent approach, so that it’s easier when we do have to rotate new people in, whether because it hasn’t worked and they’ve been punted, or it has worked and they’ve moved on, I don’t see how, even looking at the last couple transfer windows, never mind manager appointments, that there’s any sense linking them all together.
Ross, Maloney, Johnson and Monty all have wildly different tactics, backgrounds and personalities. There’s clearly nothing consistent going on, and I suspect, it’s almost an overreaction each time. Hiring a promising rookie coach is a perfectly acceptable idea, it gave us Mowbray, Collins and Stubbs in my lifetime! But when Maloney didn’t work, the same folk who decided that’s what we needed, presumably in panic, over corrected into Johnson, very experienced, but a journeyman, sacked from every job he’s had, then we get the overcorrection of wanting a winner, someone who hasn’t just failed, which, again, sounds great in theory, but here we are in, presumably, the final days of Monty. If Gordon and Kensell are left to pick the next guy again, can anyone confidently predict what thinking will underpin that hunt?
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07-04-2024 04:27 PM #139This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-04-2024 05:03 PM #140
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07-04-2024 05:17 PM #141
What gets me about Kensell was a in the time he’s been here there’s been some horrendous decisions made when it comes to players and managers coming in. While he won’t have the final say in us buying players surely he must be thinking about ones we get in that don’t make the grade and end up punted. Also the managers coming in have been baffling.
What’s wrong with the players in particular? Is it the wrong players being bought in? Or are they the right players but they’re not being coached right? Or they are but they’re not being managed correctly.
I can’t help but think we’ve spent a lot in his stint on here on players and managers that we’ve wasted, money, time and effort. And I can’t help but feel no matter how much Bill Foley is investing its wasted on the current strife that we’ve got. And there comes a point that Kensell needs to shoulder some sort of the blame for this.
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07-04-2024 05:49 PM #142This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
they are doing a good job at Bournmouth
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07-04-2024 05:54 PM #143This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Our support is NOT intolerant.
Jack Ross went on to greater things as a Head Coach/Manager did he?
Naw JR has a nice safe position, a bit like the fitba he wanted played that bored us all sh it less!
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07-04-2024 06:01 PM #144This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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07-04-2024 06:23 PM #145This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That says more about the failings of the club than him, but it's a fact nonetheless.
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07-04-2024 06:35 PM #146
Another thing about Kensell I’m not on is the amount of stuff you hear that he says when he’s in contact with Hibs fans. If it’s true (will be interesting about a certain player leaving in the summer) he’s always telling fans things he shouldn’t. You wonder if it was someone else doing it at the club would he be happy and turn a blind eye or would he take action?
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07-04-2024 06:56 PM #147This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-04-2024 07:02 PM #150
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